August 18, 2022

From creator/showrunner Kathleen Robertson, The Roku Unique Swimming with Sharks is a twisted psychological thriller that follows Lou Simms (Kiernan Shipka), a naïve small-town woman who reveals up in Hollywood in awe of her cold-as-ice new boss, Fountain Footage CEO Joyce Holt (Diane Kruger). However not lengthy after beginning her internship, Lou begins to push moral boundaries that make it fairly obvious that she’s by no means who she represented herself to be and that she has a a lot darker and extra sinister plan in play.

Throughout this interview with Collider, which you’ll each watch and skim, Shipka talked about what outlined Lou for her and the way simple it was to share scenes with Kruger, whereas Kruger talked about how she channeled Joyce and the enjoyable moments she had working along with her male co-stars. In addition they talked about how they’d return for extra, if Robertson writes it.


Collider: How are you guys doing?

KIERNAN SHIPKA: Good. We have been saying we like your final title.


SHIPKA: We love a radish over right here.

I personal it now, however it was not so enjoyable rising up.

SHIPKA: I perceive.

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There are such a lot of layers to each of your characters, which I actually love. Neither certainly one of them is who they appear on the floor. Kiernan, how did you discover your internal Lou? What outlined her for you?

SHIPKA: That’s an excellent query. I believe that, to me, the important thing to understanding and unlocking Lou was in understanding her previous. On the finish of the day, what Lou needs within the present is love, and to be seen and understood. She clearly misplaced her mom, and possibly had extra traumas that we don’t even find out about. However as an alternative of approaching the hunt for love and being understood in a approach that was type and grounded, she went to nice lengths and disguised her needs with wanting energy and aggression and doing something she may to rise to the highest.

So, for me, her motives have been all the time rooted in simply desirous to be seen, and desirous to be recognized and liked and safe, and wanting all this stuff in her life that she by no means felt like she had. I believe she’s most likely reached a degree the place she’s simply doing something to get there, with a reckless sense of ambition and in addition simply nothing to lose. When you don’t have anything to lose, and he or she had actually nothing, you’ll go to nice lengths, however she clearly went to too nice of lengths. Her having nothing to lose and the whole lot to achieve was actually essentially the most inspiring, driving a part of the efficiency for me.

Diane, how did you channel Joyce? Was there one thing about her wardrobe or her surroundings that might allow you to get into her mindset, after you have gone on set?

DIANE KRUGER: Nicely, no. The wardrobe is simply a part of her job, in a approach. I believe it was the concept that she could be very a lot a go-get-it woman who had gone to nice lengths to be the place she’s at and what it took to get her there, and find out how to not give that up, and to be in management and take management of the state of affairs, it doesn’t matter what. After which, the remainder, I channeled myself and different ladies that I do know, who’re of their 40s, who’ve had a life the place they selected their careers for a really very long time, and have pushed again their household, residence and the struggles that they encounter. The extra outrageous I used to be at work, the extra these susceptible sides at residence paid off.

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What did you guys most take pleasure in about working with one another on this, spending time collectively, and having one another to expertise this with? It sounds such as you have been followers of one another’s work going into this, so what’s it prefer to get to work and share scenes with an actor that you just actually admire?

SHIPKA: It’s nice.

KRUGER: Yeah, it makes it simple.

SHIPKA: It makes it simple. It makes it extra enriching. For me, there are such a lot of actually thrilling components of this job. It truly is such a dream to have the ability to do that, professionally. One of many joys of this line of labor, if you happen to’re fortunate, is working throughout from individuals that you just admire and are followers of. Diane is so fantastic on this function, and the remainder of the forged, too, is simply unbelievable. To see everybody present as much as work, daily, and simply slip into their roles completely, it was actually inspiring. When everybody has it so locked in, you possibly can’t assist however wanna go the additional mile. This complete forged simply made a lot sense. It actually was very enjoyable to play with everybody – with Diane, with Thomas Dekker, with Erika Alexander. There are such a lot of wonderful performances on this.

Diane, there are actually fascinating contradictions to Joyce. Clearly, Redmond has tortured her in a approach that he ought to must reply for, however as an alternative she has her personal harem of males that she basically tortures. What was it prefer to have all these totally different guys to work with? Did you may have any notably enjoyable moments with any of them, from Finn Jones to Thomas Dekker to Ross Butler? You had fairly a bunch going.

KRUGER: We had a whole lot of enjoyable moments. Torturing somebody on digicam is unquestionably enjoyable to do. She’s not merciless simply to be merciless. To her, it’s actually about being forward of the sport and being a perfectionist. She is, so she expects that degree of perfection from her assistants. That’s why she likes Lou as a result of she looks like, “Lastly, there’s anyone who will do what it takes.” I simply really feel unhealthy for Gerardo [Celasco], who performs my husband, as a result of in a approach, to me, he will get essentially the most abuse. Right here he’s, this Adonis popping out of the water bare, and he doesn’t get a lot as a look from his personal spouse. That love scene we now have, making an attempt to conceive, might be one of the vital unsexy scenes I’ve ever witnessed and needed to play. I felt for his character.

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By the tip of those episodes, it looks like there may be nonetheless extra story to inform. Would you prefer to maintain exploring this story? Have you ever had conversations a few potential second season and what that may very well be?

KRUGER: We’ve got not.

SHIPKA: I’ve not had a convo, however I’m not opposed both. I believe it relies on how individuals obtain it and if individuals need extra.

KRUGER: [To Kiernan] I imply, would you be in jail?

SHIPKA: There are such a lot of totally different routes that we may go. I’m simply making an attempt to consider what you’d say or what’s left. Lou got here in like a wrecking ball, and I don’t know what’s left to discover. But when there’s one thing and (present creator) Kathleen [Robertson] is down, I’m down.

That is actually an fascinating dynamic that might by no means get previous to look at.


Swimming with Sharks is out there to stream at The Roku Channel on April fifteenth.


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